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Date: 2018-03-15 01:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] momentsmusicaux
The auto-correction thing sound AMAZING. TAKE ME THERE.

Date: 2018-03-15 01:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilysea
Would You Eat Human Meat Grown in a Lab?

No - my reasons, from my strongest objection to my least strong:

1) risk of contagious disease (we still haven't identified all diseases, we're still discovering new Hepatitises)

2) haven't eaten meat for ages, so not sure my digestive system could cope

3) emotional ick factor

Date: 2018-03-15 01:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
In my case no because I'm vegetarian- but it's one stage better than soylent green I suppose.........

Date: 2018-03-15 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I'm veggie not for any political/ecological reason but just because I really am not taken with meat.

Date: 2018-03-15 02:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilysea
Yeah, the last time I ate meat was 29 years ago...

I take fish oil capsules regularly though & have been been known to eat grilled fish very occasionally (I think last time was 18 months ago?), so am not sure that I count as vegetarian...

Date: 2018-03-15 02:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilysea
I'm not worried about parasites, but rather about viruses (especially the ones that haven't yet been discovered).

Hepatitis C virus was only discovered in ***1989***[1].

I think it's highly likely that there are more viruses we haven't discovered yet.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/knowmorehepatitis/timeline.htm

Date: 2018-03-15 04:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I'm not sure why I would I want to.

I can think of 15 food animals I've quite happily eaten and that's before I get to fish or exotic creaturs like guinea pigs.

Date: 2018-03-15 04:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alithea
Yeah, me too.

Lab growing meat just seems like it's always going to be a very energy intensive to do and therefore never the best way to feed people. Mind you, I'm biased because I don't have an ethical objection to the principle of killing animals for food.

Date: 2018-03-15 04:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alithea
I suspect we'll be well into the throes of serious climate change before it becomes widely viable at this rate, sadly. Might be an option for on our ark space ships to find a new home though...

Date: 2018-03-15 04:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I don't have an ethical objection to killing animals for food. I'd rather they had a pleasant healthy life and that their death was not needlessly unpleasant but I'm okay as long as that's broadly true.

And I worry for the vast population of food animals if we ever decide we don't want them.

When I think about it cold-bloodedly I don't have an ethical objection to eating vat grown human but as someelse put it, it fails an ick! test.

The manufacturers seem to be getting a beef burger type meet for about twice the cost of traditional farming and falling so they might be able to trade energy intensity for other cost reductions enough to get to about the same cost.

At which point I'd happily shift to eating vat grown swan, alpaca and dormouse.

Date: 2018-03-15 04:55 pm (UTC)
alithea: Artwork of Francine from Strangers in Paradise, top half only with hair and scarf blowing in the wind (Default)
From: [personal profile] alithea
Yes, I try to only buy high welfare meat and eat less instead.

I think I agree with the commenter above that vat grown human sounds like a recipe for finding new diseases the hard way.

I could quite happily never eat another beef burger again anyway if that's all they can manage! I've had perfectly acceptable veggy alternatives to burgers and minced beef.

Date: 2018-03-15 04:58 pm (UTC)
alithea: Artwork of Francine from Strangers in Paradise, top half only with hair and scarf blowing in the wind (Default)
From: [personal profile] alithea
But yes, I do wonder about what some people think will happen to food animals if everyone stops eating them. Some people seem to be under the impression that we'll keep herds of pets, while others seem to basically want only wild animals, which makes me wonder if they are really okay with wiping out numerous species just because we bred them ourselves!

Date: 2018-03-15 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyprinella
Look at horses in the US. They've become mostly a rich person's hobby and the ones that are in bad shape or unwanted face hardship and starvation unless someone wants to put a bullet in it themselves and leave the carcass to rot on their land. There's still kill buyers but they've got to be shipped out of country for slaughter since there's no slaughterhouses in the US allowed to process them. You can't tell me that's more humane.


which makes me wonder if they are really okay with wiping out numerous species just because we bred them ourselves!

Yes, this is PETA's endgame.

Date: 2018-03-16 10:01 am (UTC)
alithea: Artwork of Francine from Strangers in Paradise, top half only with hair and scarf blowing in the wind (Default)
From: [personal profile] alithea
Yeah, one of the many, many reasons I'm really not a fan of PETA.

There's actually been a campaign over here in the UK to try and get people to eat horse meat because some people thought it would raise welfare standards if they could be sold for food. Not sure it got very far though.
Edited Date: 2018-03-16 10:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-03-15 09:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyprinella
And if you don't have animals to provide manure to replenish the ground, you have to depend on synthetic fertilizers which is part of the whole petrochemical mess anyway.

Date: 2018-03-16 10:04 am (UTC)
alithea: Artwork of Francine from Strangers in Paradise, top half only with hair and scarf blowing in the wind (Default)
From: [personal profile] alithea
Yes, in a world without farmed grazers, we'd need wild ones back anyway else the entire ecosystem is borked.

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