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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2019-01-18 02:11 pm

Interesting Links for 18-01-2019

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[personal profile] cmcmck 2019-01-18 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That first one reminds me of the 'monkey gland' nonsense of the late 19th/early 20th centuries.

And as for Brexit and all its works- sigh! :o(
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[personal profile] calimac 2019-01-18 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
So here's my guess as to what's going on now, the why of it:

May is closing off all other avenues of escape (extension, repeal, referendum II) in the hopes that the prospect of default no-deal will frighten her opponents into reconsidering and accepting her deal, the one they rejected so decisively.

Meanwhile, her opponents are refusing to accept the same deal in the hopes that the prospect of default no-deal will frighten May into accepting some other avenue of escape, the ones she's been ruling out.

If nobody gives in, and I don't see why they would, they all go off the cliff together and take the country with them.

Same thing's going on in the US, by the way. Trump has boxed himself into a position where anything other than full funding for his wall would be a crushing defeat, so he won't accept any budget without it. Meanwhile the Congress absolutely won't fund it. So the shutdown continues.

Again, this could go on until the next election, or longer. It's not a Democrat v. Republican thing. The previously Republican Congress was equally uninterested in funding the wall, it's just that there were no political points for Trump in pressing the issue until the Democrats took office.

A previous case in US history that I've read about, featuring such a standoff, was the battle between President Garfield and Senator Conkling in 1881 over control of New York patronage. Both men quickly got to a position where for either of them to back down an inch would be a complete defeat. That impasse cracked with a surprising and completely out of the blue event on July 2.

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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2019-01-18 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you are right about the interplay between May and Corbyn and what they are tusselling over.

An advantage the Soft Brexit - Soft Remain faction has is that the UK can unilaterally revoke Article 50 and can do so in about 90 minutes on Brexit Day if needed. There are probably enough Tory Remainer rebels willing and able to do that if all the other parties were determined to do so.

So I think May ought to lose that tussle.

But who knows? We're a bit beyond the event horizon here I think.