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andrewducker- Why 02/02/2020 is the most palindromic date ever.
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- Here's Google once again giving money to awful bigoted politicians
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- Doctor Who and the Social Justice Agenda
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- Persuading Google Maps there's a traffic jam with a handcart full of phones
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- Religious Change in Britain from 1991 to 2018
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- Nissan: "our entire business both in the UK and in Europe is not sustainable in the event of WTO tariffs"
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- North Lanarkshire Council to reward employees who risk their lives during weather warnings
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- Lies, blame, rewriting history: Welcome to day one of Brexit talks
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Date: 2020-02-03 01:00 pm (UTC)The scenario would be CEO / CFO / MD wonders "For the Sunderland plant to be viable without any EU exports, how much of the UK car market would we need to be"
Finance run some numbers - 20% - roughly.
CEO / MD / CEO - 20%! 20%? Nope, that ain't happening, not even worth thinking about.
So I believe that they would have some numbers but no current plans to try and achieve them.
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Date: 2020-02-03 02:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-02-04 03:06 pm (UTC)It's just that the contingency plan is the pretty much the same as if the UK brought in a minimum wage of £100 an hour or someone let off a dirty bomb at the factory gates - just close the UK operation as quickly and cleanly as possible.
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Date: 2020-02-03 02:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-02-03 05:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-02-03 02:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-02-03 04:39 pm (UTC)On the matter of Doctor Who and social justice
Date: 2020-02-03 02:52 pm (UTC)And I wonder what Waris Hussein makes of Jack Harkness. He's apparently still alive...?
Re: On the matter of Doctor Who and social justice
Date: 2020-02-03 04:40 pm (UTC)Re: On the matter of Doctor Who and social justice
Date: 2020-02-04 03:07 pm (UTC)Re: On the matter of Doctor Who and social justice
Date: 2020-02-04 03:16 pm (UTC)Re: On the matter of Doctor Who and social justice
Date: 2020-02-04 03:33 pm (UTC)Re: On the matter of Doctor Who and social justice
Date: 2020-02-04 04:47 pm (UTC)Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-03 03:00 pm (UTC)So I wonder what's going on now.
Suggestions include
Nothing, people always complained about the progressiveness of Doctor Who. (Bastards have always been Bastards)
Social liberalism looks like winning permanently and completely in a way it didn't in the 60's or the 90's. (The Bastards have Lost.)
Social liberalism now has adherents powerful enough to require or even coerce compliance and that makes people who disagree with social liberalism or think they might be guilty of some transgression nervous. (The Bastards are Scared)
Social liberalism looks like it has a narrower focus than it did at the begining of Doctor Who because eg instead of trying to take a broadly feminist position (and thus speaking up for half the population) it is trying to be inclusive of minority groups by ethnicity, gender, sexuality, abiltiy and other attributes and also the intersection of those groups. (The Bastards have Eagle Eyes.)
The Doctor Who script writers are not as good as they used to be so the progressive elements (like other elements of plot and theme) are often clunky. (Moffat You Bastard)
Doctor Who has redressed the balance between people who are white men and people who are not white men and has done this a little too much eg of the 4 travelling companions in the Tardis there is one white man despite white men in the UK making up about 44% of the population. (Indivisible Bastards)
There is an orchestrated campaign by the alt-right bastards to nobble any progressive flagship. (The Bastards *are* out to get us.)
Doctor Who really is deliberately pursuing a Social Justice Agenda at the expense of Proper Science Fiction (The Bastards are Right)
See 8 but that's a Good Things! (Fuck the Bastards)
Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-03 04:09 pm (UTC)Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-04 09:13 am (UTC)I think people like the Sad Puppies would take the view that social justice issues are not what proper science fiction should be about. Or not what Proper Science Fiction is about.
I disagree with them. I think social justice issues are a proper subject of science fiction and always have been a key theme. HG Wells' works
What I would say is that there is only a limited amount of space in a work of art, be that space of length, time, audience attention, coherence of plot, theme, character and language. So if you chose to foreground social justice issues in a work of science fiction you must have less space to foreground some other aspects of the genre. Which is fine, you pays your money, you takes your choice as both an artist or the audience.
I think Doctor Who has tended to choose talking about social or political themes over, say, detailed exploration of the implications of time travel. I think that is a fair assessment of the editorial decisions the production team of Doctor Who have made since the begining.
(Space is not fixed, really good artists should be able to make richer art which creates more space or uses the space more efficiently.)
Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-04 10:32 am (UTC)I agree; it has after all, always been aimed at a family audience and detailed explorations of time travel tend to end up in hard SF territory.
Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-04 03:03 pm (UTC)I think the audience for hard physical science fiction is smaller than the audience for a programme that pokes around in the social impacts of science and has science-fictional adventures. I think the audience for hard scify about time travel is probably smaller the audience for hard scify generally.
Lots of people want an adventure that often poses questions about how we organise society. Fewer people want to spend their Sunday night thinking about Grandfather Paradoxes.
Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-04 05:20 pm (UTC)Especially as hard SF about time travel is generally, in my experience, either brain-ache-inducing or doesn't actually work/ is not consistent if you think about it for a more than a few minutes.
Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-05 11:35 am (UTC)Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-04 02:39 pm (UTC)Re: Doctor Who
Date: 2020-02-04 03:04 pm (UTC)