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Date: 2012-01-27 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com
re: Mail vs. Times... I would visit the NYT (or IHT, the international version) a lot more if they didn't cap ad-supported "free" access to a mere 20 articles a month. I ran out of "free" viewings last Friday, and won't get any more until next Tuesday... and I am certainly NOT subscribing for their "99¢ subscription" given that they are so cagey about what the subscription will cost after the promo expires. (And likely not even then, given how damned expensive they have been in the past given that you still see bloody ads.)

If the Mail is still free to access online, then there's one reason it surpassed the Times.

As for the "cover up", well, no; "Morgellon's Disease" has never been well supported by research literature, and certainly anyone other than the True Believers has found that the foreign matter samples were from textiles or other common environmental substances.

-- Steve is certainly not dismissing the syndrome, but thinks that "delusional parasitosis" is a better term. Now to find out why these folks' neural nets are falsely signalling the creepy-crawlies...

Date: 2012-01-27 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm quite aware of the "Dail Fail"'s reputation... I'm guessing that the bulk of its traffic is celebrity gossip and surrepetitious photos of starlets in swimwear, with a side-order of fascist frothing. I was just pointing out that the NYT is at least in part the authour of its own woes.

-- Steve wishes he was part of The Conspiracy; his retirement fund could do with some top-up with Illumaniti money.

Date: 2012-01-27 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
"...it's that The Mail is an appalling newspaper. If The Guardian or somesuch had taken top spot I'd be perfectly happy."

As you'd imagine, I take the opposite view and would reverse the two newspapers in that statement!

Date: 2012-01-27 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Sorry. We'll just have to agree to disagree...

Date: 2012-01-27 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
While the stories the Guardian breaks are sometimes important in the sense of being about events affecting the world in a big way, a celebrity story broken in the Daily Mail, on TMZ or in the pages of Hello! may well be seen as more important by individual people.

I care more about the SNP's position on corporation tax than I do the love-life of Justin Bieber or who was a bitch backstage at the X-Factor, but the latter two examples are going to sell more papers/magazines and so be important to people. (although I, like you, would have a different view of what's important)

Date: 2012-01-27 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
The Daily Mail (the paper edition) really doesn't do much in the way of celebrity gossip - nowhere near as much as the website does. When it does, they are generally fluffy light-hearted articles rather than news stories.

Date: 2012-01-27 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
For a fairly topical one, how about the Stephen Lawrence thing?


It's a fairly important point made in that BBC website article that we're talking about the website, not the newspaper. The website does show some content from the newspaper, but an awful lot of the stories on the website don't appear in print. The print newspaper doesn't have much in the way of celebrity gossip for example.

Date: 2012-01-27 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

"I know it's true; I read it in the Daily Mail" is sufficient rebuttal while being more entertaining than anything I could come up with off-the-cuff, so I'll just stick with that.

-- Steve is gradually becoming less amazed with the remarkable run of the Weekly World News, given how little its coverage differs from that of the Daily Mail.

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